Responses to presentations in English 251, January 30 2006
Kevin Harper
251-02
Presentation Response
The second Symposium presentation by Mike Watson, Joe Alsup, and Ted Clifton was the most meaningful to me because of its modern interpretation the work. Instead of listening to Socrates and his buddies out dated version of love, they presented an entertaining modern dating guide. They were right on with there assumptions and stages of people in love. There are the people that love anything and just wish to be with anyone. Then there are people who are in love with certain features, such as Sir Mix A Lot and his infatuation with large behinds. Another stage in the process of love is when people begin to value the soul of others and do not base their love solely on appearance, and beyond that there is the type of person who finds beauty in everyday life. They see beauty in nature, art, and everything else. Finally there are those who contemplate love and meditate to be close to it.
These stages represent love throughout a person's life for the most part. When people are young they are generally in the first stage where they go for whatever they can get, but through experience they narrow their search to others with distinct features. Then as a person matures they move to the third stage and this is when people marry. Then as a person starts to slow down they cherish life more and move into stage four, and stage five is like a remembrance of past love and experiences. The presentation was well thought and humorous. They were well rehearsed and dressed and obviously enjoyed what they were doing. They made clear and easy to follow power points and found songs to go along with what they were saying.
Marie Kooman
Out of all the presentations the one on Genesis made the biggest impact on me. This is because they dealt with a topic (Genesis/the Bible) that is a major part of most of our society today and made its teachings in a more modern way. The party scene in one way or another is something almost all of us have encountered in some way by this time in our lives. Alcohol is a big temptation to all of us especially in college with the influences of frat parties and keggers around every corner. Many times the stories in the bible, while still relevant today are overlooked because the messages aren't as obvious to our culture as they could be were they written today. I personally haven't run into this exact situation, but it does make you think the effect and influence that friends (and especially girlfriends) might have over you. What things you wouldn't normally do, but would because someone you care about or want to care about, want you to do and what those consequences might get you thrown out of.
Trevor Koritza
My favorite presentation was the one from Genesis. Some of the readings in this class are very difficult for me to understand, though this reading was quite simple and easy to follow along. When I saw the students present Genesis, I could follow along everything they said and did. For that reason, this is why this presentation is the one that stood out the most for me.
This presentation was clearly executed and done very well. It kept me focused for a few simple reasons. First of all it made me laugh. I did like "Kenny the evil kid" and all the other references such as eating ribs, drinking from the forbidden liquor cabinet, and the fact that Adam wanted his dad to invite someone else to the party, being make a being compatible for him. They also kept everything to the point and presented it with good acting, and an excellent interpretation of the story line.
This presentation made me realize a few things. The most important of which is that this story, although thousands of years old, still has meaning today! They did a perfect example by bring a modern side to it. For example, Dad creating the party, was the same as God creating the Earth. Dad inviting Eve, was God Creating Eve. Kenny making them drink from the forbidden liquor cabinet was the same as the serpent telling Eve to eat the Forbidden Fruit. Everything came together perfect and made me realize how meaningful that story is because it can happen to people today, as it did then. The moral is more meaningful to me now than it was before, and that's because I can now relate this story if Genesis, to everyday lif
Rachel Vinatieri
I believe it was Ashley who did the water color painting to represent the first part of the symposium. I really liked this expression because I am a visual person and all the little details that were so well put together really hit home for me. I liked that she took ideas and not necessarily scenes from the actual play. The hands of Eros working through all the speakers as they are praising him and being skewed by the water so that he looks bigger was such a good idea. She took the notion that Eros can be different to different people and expressed that through the flowers surrounding the whole “tapestry.” That is really ingenious, not only is Eros working this dialogue but he is always surrounding it and influencing it. I like that the circle was used in conjunction with Eryxmachiaus speech about unity and the wholeness that! ! Eros suggests for him. I appreciate that she didn’t finish the circle. The thought that Eros is multi-faceted and represents multiple forms of love in our lives suggests that we may never experience them all. People tend to get frustrated when they don’t see how Eros is working in their lives or if he is working at all. This suggests the openness of the circle. We can distinguish that this shape should be a circle just like we know we should be whole and completely happy once we find that missing piece, but until then it’s all up to Eros. This painting was really well done and nicely thought out. I liked all the hard work and dedication that went into this project.
Katchew
Engl 251– presentation response
February 1, 2006
The Symposium (1a) presentation stood most prominent in my mind of all presentations. It was wrought with symbolism and creativity. I also enjoyed their various expressions of imagery: art, poems, the distressed book, and the skit. The painting, first, was successful in holding my attention and was really imaginative. The transfer of Eros’ hands from the world above to the human world and depicting the change in form of his hands was on point in referencing the section of the Symposium in which Socrates depicts the analogy of the fish below water having no concept of the world above. The poem was accurate in referencing the Symposium’s ideas of love, i.e. common love and appropriate love. What stood out most was that she wrote the poem encompassing her experiences with love and the Symposium’s ideas. This communicated that the ideas presented in the Symposium transcend time, as we youths can describe our experiences with love and that they uncannily parallel the Symposium’s ideas. The concept of the Symposium transcending time was also literally communicated with the distressed journal holding the groups presentation on love.
The skit not only gave us a good idea of the characters involved in the Symposium but also helped me to better relate, having it staged in modern times in a setting I find familiar. The skit also parallels the Symposium in communicating some of the characteristics of certain speakers at the symposium. For example, the ideas of Heavenly and Common Aphrodite are expressed by Pausanius in the skit as they are in the Symposium. I enjoyed this presentation the most and believe that it most encompassed the guidelines of the assignment.
The presentation for Sappho and Catullus was remarkable. Instead of just using the words the two had written, they went for the meaning behind them, adding their own when it was needed. By taking the words out of the strict historical setting and using anachronism, they were able to draw out a lot of the feeling in the text. Each author was represented accurately, and their major ideas and beliefs were still intact, even if the setting was different. Plus, who doesn't like togas?
Daniel ElyEach of the projects presented on Monday were very enjoyable but the group I enjoyed the most was Group 1 that presented on the Symposium (part1). I liked how each person contributed their own individual part to the presentation (painting, poem, book, screenplay) and then they followed with a play performed by all the group members. Ashley?s painting of her reflection of the Symposium was amazing. The attention to detail from the hands of Hermes, to the flowers around the circle representing the different speeches, to the different figures representing the characters was extraordinary. I appreciated the way Caitlin took the time to distress the book to make it look more authentic to the time period instead of just stapling all the pieces together. I loved how Michael was able to incorporate the aspects of the play into his version located at the Dunes. The conversations between the characters were very similar to those in Plato?s Symposium but the actual content was quite unique and humorous.
This group did a very good job of expressing Plato?s Symposium in their own way but paid attention to the detail and accuracy of the original.
Michael McCaig
-Jeffrey Nabity
After watching all of the groups present I was both surprised and impressed. All of these groups were very creative and quite funny. The group that I am choosing to critique was the first presentation of the Symposium. It seemed like the group put quite a bit of time into the presentation as they had the picture, the book, the poem, and the skit. Each one of these seemed very creative and lots of time and effort had to be put into the presentation. The picture was phenomenal with the great detail that was put into the art. It also portrayed the story very well through the symbols and other parts of the picture. I especially liked the story as it captured the mood of what the events of the Symposium would have been like in person. It was also very amusing and encompassed the important aspects of the book. This group did a good job, as did all of the other groups who presented.
Nicole Stromsness
-Kameron Dunkle
I really enjoyed the watching the first Bible group perform. I liked how they were able to relate the Book of Genesis to a modern day version of it. I think that by modernizing it people are more able to grasp the concept. God, the father, had done so much for his son, and yet he always wanted more. I like how they interpreted God creating the Earth in seven days as the father preparing his son's party for seven days. He had arranged this great party for him, but yet Adam still wanted someone else to come to the party--Eve. The son is seen as very naive, as was Adam. The woman is very persuasive. And yet, as she states in the performance, Adam does nothing to stop her or the situation. Which he could have if he had done or said something. The character playing the snake, Kenny, is a bad influence on both Adam and Eve. However, this relates to everyone's daily lives. As much as there are bad influences on our lives, we alone have the will power to know what is right and wrong. I liked how they used alcohol to represent the forbidden fruit. Alcohol numbs the mind and skews the truth. It shows how both Adam and Eve had different perspectives on life after they tasted the alcohol. It was only then that they realized how much they had to lose. Overall, I really liked their take on this Bible.
Heather Suguita
First I would just like to express my pleasure in viewing all of the project presentations. However, the one that really stuck out in my mind was the skit that was an allegory for the story of Genesis. It was in my opinion just perfect. The skit was so simple yet mirrored the tale of the Garden of Eden perfectly. I would even go on to say that the opening monologue describing what the skit will be about and what it represents as unnecessary. The other thing that I thought was interesting is that in Genesis eating the apple gave Adam and Eve the knowledge of good and evil, and elsewhere in regard to the Symposium, we discussed inebriation causing a ?higher? or different level of consciousness. So, the group?s use of alcohol as the ?apple? in a way tied together these two texts. When the father or ?God? returned, the snake character and Adam got issued the punishments directly similar to those in Genesis, but Eve was given the exact same punishment from Genesis, which was quite funny to the class due to its absurdity in this situation. However, afterwards I could not think of a punishment that would mirror Eve?s and not seem absurd in the father/party situation. The skit as a whole works great as a parallel to Genesis and at the same time a warning against stealing/drinking. All in all, a wonderful story and job well done.
G Lasseter
Response to Presentation Set #1
The Ladder of Love
I found the presentation on the ladder of love to be the most meaningful presentation and the easiest to relate to our modern journey of love and eventually being able to love beauty itself. As a teenager, as the presentation suggests, you start off by seeing only outer beauty and you seem to find so many different people beautiful or ?hot?, the term more commonly used for beauty. Eventually you start to love one specific part of the body. Growing up, girls seemed to find height a very attractive quality in young men, but eventually as you mature, you start to see that beauty is not something that can be seen from the outside. You may start dating a man who is good looking, but on the inside has no personality at all. This forces you to start looking for inner beauty. In The Symposium, Plato describes this as, ?[one] must come to believe that beauty in souls is more to be valued than that in the body, so that even if someone good of soul has but a slight bloom, it suffices for him? (155). This quote shows that even somebody who may be lacking in appearance will find happiness due to his good soul. Growing up, you truly come to realize that beauty is what is in the mind of the person that you love. Your best friend may be dating somebody that you don?t find attractive, and she may tell you that she is in love with him. What does she love about him you may ask? Perhaps she sees the true beauty in his mind. The next step after finding beauty in the mind is being able to love knowledge, which gets you closer to loving beauty itself. As I have found, everybody will have a different definition of what beauty is when they find it and everybody will have found beauty in a different way.
The Monologues showed that God was angry and Adam regretted listening to Eve. Eve showed that she shouldn't be blamed for other people's actions. Kenny the snakeshowed that the snake has no remorse for the destruction of other people's lives; furthermore, the snake kind of enjoys tormenting Adam and Eve. The humor in the re-enactment made it memorable and helped enforce the meaning of Genesis.
Brian BrandtMichael Nelson, English 251
Presentations (1/30) Response
I felt that all groups were equally informative, original and worth the presentation time. However, I feel that I must write my response on the Sappho and Catellus group. Their performance was great. They started off my giving background information, which is always good, just incase the audience is not known on who the performers are speaking of. Yet, that is not why I enjoyed the performance. I very much liked the "soundtrack," I thought that the songs that were played and performed kept my attention on the group that was performing, plus the groups own lyrics to the melody was great. This is a very shallow reason for enjoying the groups presentation, however, with students it is very hard to keep the attention on the performance, and I thought the reciting of the poets works added with the music was awesome. Plus Sappho and Catellus intended their poems to be recited as lyrics. My applause goes to this group, for their original and informative performance.
by Bryan Coggins
All the projects that were performed on Monday increased my understanding of the pieces of literature and engaged me throughout the duration of the presentation. The one I felt most embodied the work was the presentation on The Symposium (part a). They used many different means in which to convey Plato?s ideas to the class: a painting, a poem, a book, and a short play.
The watercolor painting done by Ashley Allison covered all the themes discussed in The Symposium. She used the different flower designs in reference to Agathon?s speech. Eros?s hands were coming down into the water to merge the plate together in order to make it whole again and Ashley said that the reason the plate was under water and Eros was on land was to distinguish between earth and the heavens.
Janet Coakley wrote a poem based on her experiences with relationships. She based her poem off of Socrates? speech in The Symposium, incorporating his teachings and his definition of love. It was apparent that Janet comprehended the main themes that Socrates was trying to verbalize.
Michael Casalinuovo?s short play written from the Symposium text pulled the whole presentation together. The language used was that of Socrates? time but with a modern twist. Michael was able to express Plato?s thoughts and words into something that a person living in the present world could relate to.
The presentation was a completely accurate representation of the piece of literature. The group really tried their best to recreate The Symposium for the class and to share Plato?s ideas on love and Eros.
-Ashley McMullen
Congratulations should be given to all of Monday's groups. However, the group that had The Song of Solomon and First Corinthians did a fine job using their skits to explain the pieces. Although they broke down the Song of Solomon well with the props, such as apples and "raven black hair", I preferred their futuristic interpretation of The First Corinthians. The children they used to portray desire and transformation showed the innocence of love in The First Corinthians. They showed that with the "love rocket", or power of the knowledge of love, they can meet the one they were meant to be with. I found it very true to the bible when they confessed the blindness of their childhood. They both had faith and hope but, like with the scarf, they could only be bound together by love.
Heather Chandler
All throughout the presentations, such symbolism was used and was affective. I felt it helped students better understand the story and the nature of its message by connecting it to today's society. Also, this approach made for a very funny, very interesting, and overall, very entertaining presentation.
Justin Barr
Group #1's presentation (Symposium 1a) was very meaningful to me because it had captured the Symposium's various definitions of eros, and displayed them through numerous works of art. Eros was first beautifully portrayed through a painting of hands submerging a vibrant plate in water, where the broken plate seemed to symbolize our wandering, lonely hearts searching for that missing piece in our lives. The explanation of water's ability to split images as being connected to eros descending from the heavens to earthly life caught my attention the most because that feeling of eros, which I believe I have felt before, truly feels as if it were passed down from the sky. The second work of art I enjoyed was the poem entitled "What is Love." This poem related to the speaker's (Janet Coakley) experience with love in relationships. I wholeheartedly agreed with what she had said, which was mainly that love is a feeling that is always trying to be reached, and if it has already been reached, it is never forgotten. In being an ex-boyfriend who had loved his girlfriend so much, I know it is impossible to forget that feeling of being whole. I also know that I am looking forwar! ! d to feeling eros again. Lastly, the adaptation to the Symposium performed as a modern day college party had huge meaning because I could easily relate to this setting as I myself am a college student. This play was well made as it exemplified college students' outlook on love, spoken in the way of the speakers at the Symposium, and I found this to be unforgettable. In conclusion, Group #1's presentation was very meaningful in my opinion, because the various works used to present the symposium could be easily understood by any college student.
Yno Teotico
I enjoyed seeing all the presentations today, but one in particular was memorable to me. It was the second presentation that was done on the "five steps of love." I liked this presentation for a couple reasons. Probably the main reason was how the "lecture" broke down ideas of love into progressive steps. I also enjoyed the humor in the lecture form and power point slides, and also the pop culture examples that were provided for better understanding of their points.
. I liked how it was easy to tie in each step of their lecture with different views of speakers in the symposium. I enjoyed hearing about all the steps four and five, and how 4 and 5 are deeper and more interested in personality than 1 and 2, which are interested in the physical body. It is pretty interesting to realize that the speakers of the symposium had basically the same viewpoints and issues with love and relationships as people do today. I think that I, being a student in college, am at a time where different steps/ideas about love can be conflicting.
In conclusion, one of the things I really enjoyed about watching this presentation was how you could see the parallels between thoughts on love by ancient philosophers and normal people today. I think knowing that we are not alone in this thinking makes us all feel better, and at the same time it ties us together with the rest of the human race.
Anita Crompton
All the group projects on the thirteenth were very interesting. Honestly, I was suprised because everyone made their presentation very exciting. They based the old stories to moderation so everyone can understand each different situation. However, my favorite presentation was the Symposium 2. The group showed power point presentations. They showed steps of how love occurs. But, they use modern photos and music to catch the eyes of the listners. The team used pictures of famous actors and singers. I laughed during the presentation and it held my attention. I believed they proved their point and stated it in a interesting way. The group used five steps to prove their point in love. The first step was based upon looks and their first example was of Brad Pitt. The second step was still based upon looks, but they used the famous song "! ! Baby got back" and Jennifer Lopez as a icon. The third step the transitional phase where what you see is what you get. Then they use a example of a women going into the grocery store with just sweats on and with no make up. Proving there is more to a person than looks. The fourth step is where individuals find beauty in everything aroud them and they used the movie "Field of dreams" as a symbol. Finally, the last step was contemplation of love and is the meditation stage. The group used Yoda as a icon. Moreover, this group used a lot of immagination and did a great job.