Responses to Group 1: Windows into the Lost


The mix of art forms used by the first group was right in line with

Blake’s ability to express himself in multiple ways. The music, art and

philosophical as well as artistic interpretations made for a thorough, well

rounded presentation. Each member of the group delivered their own

interpretations in the medium of their choice yet maintained the common

themes found in Blake’s work.

Expanding Blake’s ideas of rejection of the church by providing references to

material from other sources allowed a important connection to be made. That

is, across time and through different social backgrounds a common theme was

found, thereby reinforcing the opinions of the separate artists, and

providing a different perspective for the class to relate to.

The music and the corresponding lyrics provided, displayed a more

modern day version of some of the themes relating to Innocence and

Experience. Innocence seems harder to portray in modern song, but the

parallels to experience were evident in each of the three works presented.

Again, we saw the link to experience as being inseparable from sexual

expression.

The art being created in the background during the presentation was

slightly distracting, but the result was quite powerful. The renderings were

very accurate with respect to the panels in the book as far as both form and

coloring were concerned. Overall, the presentation was put together well and

had a wonderful feel to it.

Todd LaCasse


All the presentations showed a lot of creative ability, but I found

those that dealt with personal experience the most interesting. "Four

Windows Into the Lost" and "Am I Loved?" were both moving. I think it

takes a considerable amount of strength for people to express

themselves, especially in front of an audience of their peers. I was

moved by their analysis of Blake's work as applied to the current

experiences of our time. It is fascinating to realize how much Blake's

work is a reflection of today's society.

The particular elements of "Four Windows Into the Lost" was the

application of Blake's work to the music lyrics of today's artists.

More often then not we don't really "hear" the words of lyrics. It is

not until you analyze the deeper meaning that you realize what emotion

and thought lies within the melody. I was impressed by the presenter's

ability to discover these lyrics. Also within this presentation was the

artwork. Visual stimulation is a key element of Blake's work and the

presenter did a marvelous job. It is amazing to watch someone draw

freehand. The expression and meaning within artwork can be even more

stimulating than the words of a poem.

The other presentation I found most interesting was Jennifer's reading

of her experience with her biological father. I was moved by her

courage to share such a personal and disappointing part of her life. It

is a clear reflection of Blake's steps of innocence to experience. I

think the comparison to the "Clod and the Pebble" was great. It is as

if we are always searching for something we do not have. When we are

young we want to be older and when we are older we want to be young

again. We are always in conflicting states.

Alex Thomson


Tuesday's presentations on William Blake's "Songs of Innocence and

Experience" were one of the most creative displays of imagination and

artistic talent that has been done by classmates of mine. All the groups

were unique with their ideas and did a great job connecting with the

audience.

I really enjoyed the musical section of the first groups

presentation, "Four Windows into the Lost". I personally have always

loved Blake's "A Little Girl Lost" since I read it my first year in

college. I was going through a lot with my father at that time, and the

poem really reached me deeper than it was probably meant to. That is why

I was intrigued by the idea of comparing music to the poem. Tori Amos'

song "Icicle", which was compared to "A Little Girl Lost", is one of my

favorite songs- I love Tori Amos to begin with. I was surprised because I

have probably listened to that song a hundred times and never really

thought about it in that aspect. Amos' haunting lyrics reflect the voice

on an innocent girl who grows up and tries to deny her maturity, in fear

that she will lose her fathers love if he sees the changes in her. This

can be compared to the fear that the girl feels in Blake's poem. She

wants her fathers approval so badly, you can just picture her staring up

into his experienced face with her innocent pleading eyes. This group

did and excellent job of showing all the aspects and views that can be

interpreted from Blake's poetry.

Overall, I think every group brought something special into the

classroom on Tuesday, and I was very impressed by each groups creativity.

Group one's presentation just happened to hit home for me. Hopefully

every student was fortunate enough to connect to at least one of Blakes's

works like that. It really creates a whole new meaning to the word

poetry.

Elizabeth Torok


I would like to commend all the presenters on their collaborations and insights on different views of Blake’s work.

The first group used different personal techniques to share their interpretations of the "Lost" poems. This was a good idea because intern we were able to learn a little about the person presenting. The lyrics of Paula Cole and Tori Amos seemed to fit perfectly to the messages of Blake’s poems as I also interpreted them. This shows that artists may use different "mediums" to convey similar themes. Having an appreciation for most art forms, I was very taken by the artwork displayed on the chalkboard. With an art noveau influence, the work resembled that of Blake; they were full of color, very organic in drawing and abstracted, yet detailed enough to recognize the image. The slight shadings with the side of the chalk did its best to capture the watercolor look that Blake gave his illuminations. The artist was able to include many figures and objects Blake describes in his songs and illuminations, although the only thing I felt was missing was a picture of a sheep/lamb or shepherd, regarding the innocence. Overall, I think the presentation was interesting and personal, well done.

The presentation based on Diatom’s Ladder of Love was also an interesting relation to Blake’s use of love. The four levels of love: self love, the love of one person, the love of many people and celestial love were well illustrated and the examples used from the "Songs of Innocence and Experience" fit them well. It seems as if most of the poems fit into one, and in some cases more than one, category. In some poems is seems that both self love and the love of many people can be seen depending on the view taken. Besides falling in the four different rungs of love, the rungs of the ladder is also divided. The group did a good job in pointing out that self love and the love of one person related to one’s innocence and that the love of many people and celestial love may refer to one’s experience.

I would also like to say that the story "Am I loved?" was very touching and my gratitude for sharing this piece of your life with us. Connections between this story and Blake’s works were well explained. This presentation also suggested there was a similarity between the innocence and experience. I thought that was a neat concept to bring up and discuss.

Janwyn Toy


All of the projects were thoughtful responses to Blake's "Songs of

Innocence and Experience." I especially enjoyed the first presentation,

which included chalk drawings, music, and analogies to trees and

mushrooms. I liked this project because it responded to Blake's work in

many different ways, and I found this appropriate as there are many ways

to interpret Blake. I also liked the project because the music and visual

aids kept the presentation interesting. I connected the most with the

music. Because Blake himself put his poetry to music, I think that a good

way to more deeply understand his poetry is to compare it with music that

reflects our innocence and experience today. If we are able to understand

our innocence and experience, how they are related to one another, and the

roles they play in our lives, it will be easier for us to understand

Blake's plates and poetry. Music is a common emotional tool that Blake

and readers of Blake can use to communicate when words fail us.

I also really liked the comparison to the mushroom, both because it was

such a unique idea and also because I had not thought of innocence in that

way. I liked how the group described innocence as internal, and even

things as physically unappealing as a mushroom can in reality be purely

innocent.

I think that Blake would have appreciated the talented chalk drawings. I

was glad that as a class we were able to watch him do the drawings. I

appreciated them much more seeing them shaped than I probably would have

if they had been there when we walked in. Blake, when making his plates,

must have taken hours and hours to perfect and shape them. Watching the

presenter draw on the board reminded me that the plates in the book are

not just illustrations, but artwork from Blake's own hand that he intended

his poetry to be read from.

I enjoyed all of the projects, and I think that they were all of

high quality, especially considering that it was the first day of

presentations and the groups had no examples to build upon.

Katie Sprigg


The first presentation, "Four windows into the lost" was very good in

my opinion. I liked the way the four members used each of their individual

strengths to express their views on Blake’s work. The focus on the plates

Little Boy Lost and Little Girl Lost to represent Blake’s Songs of Innocence

and Experience were some good choices. They are very strong poems to start

with and the groups explanation and expression of them only made the meanings

stronger for me.

The first member used philosophy to look deeper into the poems. By

using comparisons to other works of poetry, the understanding of the poems

became clearer to me. The second member used music to better explain what

Blake was saying in Songs of Innocence and Experience. By playing specific

verses and showing the lyrics, it made it easy for me to see the examples of

innocence and experience within the songs. The third member used her

knowledge of nature to give an example of innocence and experience. The last

member used are as a means to express his views on Blake’s Songs of Innocence

and Experience. The artwork on the chalkboard was good and the explanations

of them made sense. It was intersecting how he used a few of Blake’s

different plates and combined them using some of his own ideas an well.

I thought that all of the presentations were good and they all had

aspects about them that made them stand out in my mind. I liked the first

presentation the most because it had a lot of variety.

Marc Shimamoto


"Four Windows into the Last" was the presentation that stood out in

my mind. Although all the presentation were very well organized, this

particular project used each individuals interests and formative

expertise.

The piece on philosophy seemed well thought out, even if it was a

little over my head. The music portion was quick and to the point. I

did wish she could have used artists from older generations and from a

different genre, like rock n' roll, soul, or classical.

The interpretation given to how nature was depicted in Blake's

plates was fascinating. She seemed have a good grasp of what kind of

message Blake was intending to portray through nature.

The graphical art drawn on the board was better than anything I

could do. For that reason along I was impressed.

All the groups seemed to have put a lot of effort into their

respective projects and each left an impression. I hope I can do half

as well as these first few presentations.

Jerry(Gerardo)Avalos


Of all the groups that presented projects on "Songs of Innocence

and Experience," I enjoyed the first group the most. I felt that having

each member demonstrate different aspects of the text via various media

kept the class interested and entertained.

The philosophy portion of the presentation was especially

effective in that it presented "Songs of Innocence and Experience" with

reference to other great works with which I was not previously familiar.

I felt that the references made to other works were not forced or skewed

in that the speaker tied everything together with a concise history of the

philosophers of which he spoke while still alluding to Blakian ideals.

Especially entertaining was the segment consisting of music. Even

though it was entertaining, it contained special significance to myself

and probably others in the class because it combined some contemporary and

popular displays of philosophy that, intentionally or not, referenced

Blake and often very specifically his "Songs of Innocence and Experience."

I recall one lyric in which the mound of clay was mentioned. This

especially drew me in and made me appreciate Blake's influence in his own

time, as well as our own.

The mushrooms presented as a contrast between the contrary states

or human nature was, at first, confusing. As the presenter continued to

speak, it became more apparent to me that she had in fact thought about

this and weaved her own interests well with the teachings of William

Blake. It was meaningful to me in that it caused me to realize that I,

myself, might be able to apply some of Blake's views to some of my own

interests, pursuits, and personal philosophies.

While all of the other group members were presenting their

portions of the group project, the "performance art" going on behind them

was not distracting, rather it added to the effectiveness of the group's

overall presentation. I was impressed at the great talent the artist

displayed as well as an astonishing grasp of Blake's trademark form.

Granted, it was in chalk, but the images still rang true of those within

"Songs of Innocence and Experience."

Kevin Sigmund


Out of the groups that presented on Tuesday April 13th, the first

group was my favorite. This was the presentation I enjoyed and connected

with the most. Not only was this groups presentation thought out and well

prepared, but since it was the first group to present, it cleared up some

of the things I didn't quite understand before.

Group #1 titled their presentation, "Four Windows Into the Lost",

focusing on plates 50 and 51. Although I didn't really understand what

the first speaker was trying to say about philosophy, the other three

speakers made me really think.

The three songs were an excellent example of not knowing who we

are, having to hide our sexuality from others, and how many people are

forced to grow up sooner than they should have to. I'm sure there are

many other songs that deal with these same types of issues, if we were to

take the time to really listen to the words.

The nature speech reminded me how it is extremely necessary and

important to look inside ourselves to see the true beauty of things. I

think all too often this is forgotten and what we see, feel, touch or hear

is simply based on experience alone, as this speaker mentioned. Looking

inside ourselves forces us to use our innocence to experience things.

The art speaker showed me the different things Blake was trying to

convey thru his artistic style. He pointed out just how Blake's

drawings reflected the questions he has regarding faith. Now I see that

the lion and the tiger are symbols of humans ambivalence and how most of

the beautiful nature scenes represent life and the better place after

life.

All together, this group made me think about what Blake was/is

trying to say and why he wrote his book the way or the style in which he

did.

jnunes


The first group who titled themselves "Four Windows into the Lost"

did a great job with their presentation. I was impressed how they

each broke down the "Songs of Innocence and of Experience" and

expressed how it related to them as individuals. I could relate to

each of their interpretations of the plates and see how it has

affected their perceptions. That is true of each of us taking the

class. We each view the plates differently and have different

interpretations based on our own experiences. One of the group

members related to the plates and poetry more on a philosophical

basis whereas another member could relate more to the artistic

portrayal which Blake emphasizes his feelings. It gave me four other

ways to view and understand the plates, as well as an understanding

of how the plates affected four other peers within our class. I was

really impressed at the artist who drew the artwork on the

chalkboard. He didn’t even have a drawing to go off of and created a

huge picture in front of us all. I’m sure that he can see more of

what Blake was trying to portray through his plate artwork than

myself, which makes me a bit jealous. I could personally relate to

the nature within the artwork and grasp how Blake uses nature to

represent the innocence or experience of the artwork. The colors,

which he uses, depict the feeling of either innocence or experience

and sort of set the tone for the plate. All in all, they each did a

great job on their presentation.

Two other groups decided to create a collage contrasting

innocence and experience through cut out pictures they found in

magazines. Both groups did a good job in explaining their creations,

showing me how people transform from the innocent child to the more

experienced adult. One group made a point, which stated that adults

often try to regress back to the innocence, which they once

possessed, but will never be able to do so. I think that people are

can only regain their innocence for something in which they have

never experienced or can relate to. Once you can compare two things,

you are using your experience to make that comparison which directly

relates back to the experience aspect, which Blake talks about.

Whatever the case may be, each of the presentations presented another

view of the plates and their different interpretations of the plates.

It was interesting for me to see and hear how each team expressed

their view of Blake’s "Songs of Innocence and of Experience".

Ian McCormack


Group One's combination of art, music, philosophy, and natural appreciation

really helped me further examine the depth of William Blake's Songs of Innocence

and Songs of Experience.

The music and lyrics presented by current female artists such as: Paula

Cole, Suzanne Vega and Tori Amos, made Blake's ideas easy for me to identify

with. Particular lyrics by Paula Cole, "I want to be a dog or a lump of clay,"

expressed, to me, the whole idea of us experiencing a certain mourning for

something lost when we venture into the realm of experience. It's hard to deal

the changes that take place with the invasion of knowledge. We want to return

to an uncomplicated state of innocence. It seems more pleasing to be an

unfeeling lump of clay, or an innocent dog that only has to worry about eating,

sleeping, and playing, than to be a little girl dealing with becoming a mature

young woman.

Another feature that I loved about this group's presentation was the

artistic expression that the student shared with us up on the chalkboard. It's

great to be able to view the process of creation. The student's images were

very organic and flowing, as were his motions while drawing. The way his chalk

moved on the board appeared very natural.

Finding beauty in the natural world was emphasized by the stinky mushroom

story. I was inspired to appreciate the natural course of the universe and to

welcome all things in their unrefined, inherent states. As humans, we are

constantly trying to hide and deny our natural behavior and desires. Gaining an

appreciation for nature includes an acceptance of our minds and bodies.

I have a strong disbelief in conventional religions, and have a hard time

understanding why anyone would want to devote themselves to a god that tells

them that their natural desires and instincts are evil and wrong. It appears to

be a giant pile of lies that many people believe. Blake asks us to break out

from these lies that cloud the issues of human experience.

Brook McCurdy